Showing posts with label concealed carry. Show all posts
Showing posts with label concealed carry. Show all posts

Monday, February 19, 2018

A Call to Arms in Utah - Protecting LDS Congregations


Since submitting through my Stake President, my recommendations to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) concerning the PROHIBITION against Concealed Carry in LDS chapels in Utah, and releasing that letter for others to use through the Open Carry Utah, Facebook Page (November 18, 2017), much has happened that is not positive.

  1. In Dec 2017, “a pro-ISIS media group” allegedly showed a picture of an ISIS soldier  looking at a burning San Diego, LDS Temple, with the statement, “Coming Soon.”
  2. In Jan 2018, the LDS church renewed its annual PROHIBITION against Concealed Carry in LDS chapels. Sadly this indicates the Church has again:
    • Identified LDS chapels as soft targets.
    • Placed itself opposite “… the Lord, (who) justify you, and your brethren of my church, in befriending that law which is the constitutional law of the land … (which) I (the Lord) established … by the hands of wise men whom I raised up unto this very purpose ….” (D&C 98:6-7; 101:80). Specifically, the Church is exercising a Utah option in law, to infringe on the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution, but which the US Supreme Court has ruled as an individual right. The Church is attempting to deny individuals the right to protect themselves by use of arms in an LDS chapel – contrary to the Lord’s statement of our rights in LDS scripture.
  3. The day after the Florida High School shooting, in which 17 persons were killed, an ISIS flag was raised at Hurricane High School, Washington County, Southern Utah. The message “ISIS IS COMI” was written on an exterior wall of the school.
  4. The teen who raised the ISIS flag at Hurricane High School then conducted a failed bomb attack on Pineview High School.
  5. A retired Supreme Court Justice is called for the Second Amendment to be repealed. The Church PROHIBITION policy is more closely aligned with this sentiment than the Prophet Joseph Smith's declaration that “We believe that no government can exist in peace, except such laws are framed and held inviolate as will secure to each individual the free exercise of conscience, the right and control of property, and the protection of life.” (D&C 134:2).  
Sustaining the Lord and His Constitution by removing the PROHIBITION will resolve both problems.


In the year 2000, as I departed the Middle East, I knew that radical Islam would seek to bring the USA under constant attack at home, just as they have done to Israel. The first World Trade Center bombing had already occurred, and 911 was soon to happen. Attacks within the USA have continued to grow. To maintain religious legitimacy, Islamic terrorists are obliged to give warning – then come the attacks. While the FBI may not be “aware of any specific and credible threat” to Utah, this does not mean there is no threat. The FBI was specifically warned of the Florida school shooter by name, and failed to act. Neither was the FBI aware that an ISIS flag would be flying over a Utah High School. I am confident the threat is aware of our gun free zones and that LDS Chapels are open for slaughter. Infringing on the rights granted by the Lord, and hoping that a law enforcement officer is attending church when an attack occurs, is poor policy.

Considering these facts, I call for the following:

  1. Citizens of Utah act in solidarity with our law enforcement officers and Constitution by being visibly armed in public places as a deterrent to those who seek us harm.
  2. Members of the LDS church in Utah act in obedience to their individual obligation to the Lord, to defend their lives and the lives of their families, the right of such as granted by the Lord’s US Constitution, including in LDS chapels.
  3. President Nelson, by public announcement, rescind the legalistic but unconstitutional PROHIBITION against Concealed Carry in LDS chapels in Utah.
  4. President Nelson, by public announcement, affirm the LDS Church’s support of the US Constitution, including the Second Amendment, as having been established by the Lord, and that all members of the Church are justified in defending that Constitution, as the Lord himself declared to the Prophet Joseph Smith. (D&C 101: 76-80; 98: 4-10; 109: 54)
  5. That the LDS Church actively advocate by legal action for the whole of the US Constitution, not just the First Amendment.
  6. That the LDS Church develop a system by which the expressed concerns of members are responded to and addressed - the current experience is a bureaucratic black hole.
  7. Stake Presidents in Utah, take immediate action to provide armed protection for members and their guests at LDS Chapels.
  8. Utah legislators immediately remove all State infringements on the Second Amendment.
  9. Utah Representatives to the Congress of the United States act to remove all infringements on the Second Amendment.
  10. All candidates for State or National office in the USA, declare themselves for this issue.
  11. Citizens of the USA, wherever they are able, sue all laws/regulations infringing on the Second Amendment, considering the US Supreme Court’s rulings that the Second Amendment is an individual right that the Constitution declares “shall not be infringed.”
By making this public declaration I also declare that I am using my agency in full support of the Lord and His Constitution. I also sustain the Lord’s servants in leadership positions in His Church and call upon them to act in accord with the Lord’s revelations, and if the Lord has spoken anew on this topic (or any other) that they promptly declare it. Let us all be found in obedience to the Lord’s will, in pure doctrine, and not in political correctness as defined by those who routinely stand in defiance of God’s commandments.


Saturday, November 18, 2017

The Texas Baptist Church Massacre - A Problem for LDS Churches in Utah

LDS Church policy in Utah, places their congregations at risk to a Texas-Church-type massacre. The policy PROHIBITS anyone having a Concealed Carry Permit from being armed in (open-to-the-public) LDS chapels. It is also contrary to the Church's teachings concerning God's establishment of The Constitution of the United States. At least one Stake President in Utah has asked for input from their Wards on this issue. The questions were to be a topic in a Regional leadership meeting, and therefore may have originated from higher Church authorities. In response to my Bishop and Stake President, I provided the following proposal. Anyone is welcome to use it with or without crediting it to me. Although this letter addresses Concealed Carry in Utah, I am equally for Constitutional (unrestricted) carry. 

Protection of People in LDS Chapels

Dear Bishop ____ and President ______,

The questions posed to the Ward Council by the Stake President (and perhaps the Church) are very difficult matters to speak of, yet the most serious question, and the one in active debate in social media since the Texas church massacre, was not posed to us. The worst case presented to us was someone “brandishing” a gun. I dealt with that situation once when I went out to confront a man who had a rifle and was walking up to my in-law’s home to kill his wife and children who had fled there for safety. Fortunately, I knew him well and he was very drunk. While I was not armed, I was able to quickly reach out to him in love and disarm him. All the questions posed to us were non-lethal situations that are easily handled. The question I will address is the one that must be addressed and presented to the Church: What do we do if a man enters the chapel and begins killing people?

Statement of the Problem:

The mass killing in a Baptist “haven” in Texas, highlights the vulnerability of people in LDS churches in Utah, where the Church has chosen to PROHIBIT those who have Concealed Carry Permits from bringing their concealed weapons to church for self-protection, thus PROHIBITING the individual “… right of the people to keep and bear Arms, (which) shall not be infringed” (US Constitution, Amendment II), and contrary to “… the laws and constitution of the people, which I (God) have suffered to be established, and should be maintained for the rights and protection of all flesh, according to just and holy principles ….” (D&C 101:77)

Church Policy:

Handbook 2: 21.2.4
Firearms
Churches are dedicated for the worship of God and as havens from the cares and concerns of the world. The carrying of lethal weapons, concealed or otherwise, within their walls is inappropriate except as required by officers of the law.

Legal notice published by the Church in the Salt Lake Tribune and Deseret News, Jan 15, 2017.

Notice Publish Date:
Sunday, January 15, 2017
Notice Content
NOTICE OF FIREARMS PROHIBITION Notice is hereby given that, pursuant to Section 76-10-530 of the Utah Code Annotated, firearms are prohibited in all houses of worship, including temples, meetinghouses, chapels, stake centers, tabernacles, the Assembly Hall, the Tabernacle and the Conference Center, of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the "Church"), except for firearms in the possession and control of individuals who (a) are specified in Section 76-10-523(1)(a)-(e) of the Utah Code Annotated or (b) are otherwise engaged in the protection of Church members, visitors, personnel or facilities and hold a written authorization issued by the Managing Director of the Church's Security Department. This notice is effective upon publication and shall remain in effect until revoked or the first anniversary of the publication of this notice, whichever first occurs. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints 50 East North Temple Street Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 1132361 UPAXLP

https://www.utahlegals.com/Details.aspx?SID=yh2pnkf3z1uw0f4yhbw52drv&ID=242325

https://www.utahlegals.com/Details.aspx?SID=yh2pnkf3z1uw0f4yhbw52drv&ID=242326

Discussion:

For discussion, I shall consider the case of a person who comes into a Chapel with a firearm and begins shooting people. This is the case for which the Church offers no protection for its members and guests and attempts to PROHIBIT their right to bear arms in their own defense.

Further, let us consider, as just one example, that members of the US military and their families - active duty or retired – are under the threat of death from the Islamic Caliphate (ISIS). Some have dropped off Face Book because of this threat. Others maintain an active presence on Face Book and actively engage in defense issues involving the radical Islamic threat and are therefore known to ISIS and their followers. Many members in this category actively attend church to worship God and renew their covenants at the Sacrament table.

Should such a member be PROHIBITED from carrying an otherwise legal concealed weapon into a Chapel for self-defense?

If the member declines to go undefended, should such members be authorized to administer the Sacrament at home?

If the Church will PROHIBIT self-defense, it must then provide adequate protection at Church – such as in General Conference. The person coming to Church to kill you and those around you is the one “inappropriately” bringing a weapon to Church - he isn’t coming to worship our God.

Our church is “built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone.” (Eph 2:20) These foundational pieces’ rest in the soil of Liberty - sustained by the principle of agency enshrined in Heaven and in the US Constitution.

The US Constitution is the rule of law given by God to His children in this dispensation and was a necessary precondition to the Restoration. “I established the Constitution of this land, by the hands of wise men whom I raised up unto this very purpose, and redeemed the land by the shedding of blood.” (D&C 101:80) “I, the Lord, justify you, and your brethren of my church, in befriending that law which is the constitutional law of the land; and as pertaining to law of man, whatsoever is more or less than this, cometh of evil.” (D&C 98:6-7)

Amendment II of the Constitution is designed to protect the people from tyranny: “… the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” and was ruled by the Supreme Court as an individual right. The PROHIBITION policy of the Church, opposes God’s Constitution, and places the Church with those who seek to “infringe” upon this God-given right.


There is, I think, an expectation that we be like Christ. In general this is correct: ​“Therefore, what manner of men ought ye to be? Verily I say unto you, even as I am.” (3 Ne 27:27) However, when the Church effectively tells its members to go like lambs to the slaughter, they forget that was Christ’s mission, not ours. There is a higher principle to apply – for which Christ offered Himself as a sacrifice.

The Savior taught us to worship the Father - and so we do. He is the one who gave us the greatest gift any intelligence can have - agency, or Liberty. He is the one who fought a war in Heaven to preserve it. He is the one who “gave His only begotten Son” (John 3:16) to atone for our sins in the use of our agency - as we learn for ourselves that “wickedness never was happiness.” (Alma 41:10) If there were no agency, there would be no need for a Savior. It was Satan who “sought to destroy the agency of man” (Moses 4:3) and force compliance to his law. The Father rejected that plan. Does the Church?

We all fought for that most sacred possession along with the Father. The need to defend Liberty is eternal. It is the foundation upon which all the kingdoms of glory exist. It is the foundation upon which this mortal experience is based - men “are free to choose.” (2 Ne 2:27)

When the Savior said, “Greater ​​​love​ hath no man than this, that a man lay down his ​​​life​ for his ​​​friends​” (John 15:13) He was speaking of himself but also of all those who do the same. That sacrifice is not made most often in a court of law (as was His), but on the battlefields and in our communities, at the boundary of good and evil, Liberty and tyranny.

Let the Church not follow the example of Satan in attempting to remove agency and the righteous defense of life and Liberty, or suggest we follow the example of Christ in allowing ourselves to be sacrificed by evil men, but rather the example of the Father of Lights in defending Liberty - the greatest cause in life and Eternity, and for which the Savior of mankind, in freedom, offered Himself.

Will the Church wait to provide security, or wait to ask each Stake to provide its own security, when people assembled in an LDS church under this PROHIBITION are attacked and killed? In Alaska, Stake presidents ask responsible adults at Church camps to be armed - the threat of bears is a daily reality. Our “havens” will remain so only as we are armed and the evil fear us. Evil thrives wherever you welcome it, such as in “gun free” zones. Liberty thrives wherever you defend it.

Shooter Response Options:

A. Assuming the Church PROHIBITION continues and no armed law enforcement persons are present:

1. Shelter between the bleachers and/or run away from the threat until someone with a gun arrives and engages the murderer or he runs out of ammunition. Many lives will be lost.

2. Those with tactical flashlights should engage the flash mode and point the light directly in the shooter’s eyes while people flee the scene. The shooter can shelter his eyes from the light, especially if from one source. The shooter can also reposition. Some lives will be saved.

3. The most correct option: Physically capable young or mature adults closest to the shooter must immediately rush him in mass. Some will get shot and may die, but many lives will be saved. This is not normal behavior, and the Church should instruct members to act in this way. Even then most will not respond this way.

B. Assuming the PROHIBITION is rescinded and whether or not armed law enforcement persons are present:

1. Persons who are armed should immediately engage the shooter while advancing to a close effective range.

I Propose That:

The Church remove the statement on Firearms from Handbook 2: 21.2.4.

The Church defend the 2nd Amendment as vigorously as they defend the 1st Amendment.

The Church rescind its PROHIBITION against concealed carry in Chapels, or at least allow it to expire, 15 Jan 2018.

Each Stake organize an Armed Chapel Security Force. Members of the force should:
  1.        Be trained in the proper use of firearms and security protocols
  2.        Be members of the Ward in attendance, since they are most familiar with their members
  3.        Lock all exterior doors except for one at the main entrance on each side of the building
  4.        Listen to the Sacrament meeting in the foyers and receive the Sacrament there.


This is the Lord’s Church brethren and we have a responsibility to defend it, its members and guests. Fortunately, our Father in Heaven has given us the Constitution of the United States to live by – yes, even the 2nd Amendment – and I learned how sacred that document is as a young church member growing up in New Zealand. When I was about 10, the Spirit told me I would one day go to the United States and become a citizen. As an adult I was impressed to enter military service, and I always felt during my 35 years in the USAF that I was serving in defense of God’s Constitution.

God bless you both, and thank you for serving the Lord in your callings.

Neil D. Holland